dollar, you work for what you get. you want to go out friday night? we'll do the chores of the house. you want gas for the car, you work for the money. i've never forgotten that. when i first made money, my first six digits, my big thing was i went to put super unleaded in the truck for the first time. his such a buzz about that, and i bought titleist golf balls. i was like -- >> i remember -- >> like brand new sleeve of three, i was honestly excited about it. so i can still put super unleaded, still do. >> we share a past career in common. >> what is that? >> well, i spent one summer with my brother shoveling mushroom compost. and you also shoveled compost. >> in australia. >> what was it? >> it was sheep dung. >> sheep compost. >> yeah. >> and i think that's something incredibly character build being shoveling [ bleep ]. what what did it teach you?