river this time of the year is very murky with the winter run-off and the rain and everything. so it's a very basically blind search. you do search patterns in the water trying to locate the car. >> how are your guys? how are your firefighters are doing coming upon the scene. you come upon death often in the line of work. three children and a mother in a minivan under water, how are they doing? >> they're doing pretty well. you know, now we're about 48 hours into it. >> it's a tough scene. >> it's very, very difficult. everybody's dealing with it in their own way. we brought in critical incident stress debriefing team to kind of let them blow off steam the evening of the incident. and that goes a long way and in decompressing these folks because you know, firefighters