where were the skept -- >> paul, was this -- >> no, anderson, let me finish. you're driving a story because you want to drive a story. the real story is let's get the economy moving. it's not the birther story. >> wait. >> you're playing into a fringe. >> i'm driving the story? >> you're playing into a fringe. >> i'm playing into a fringe? >> you're playing into a fringe. >> one of your -- in the republican party this has been discussed ad infinitum. >> one of mine? >> we've been debunking this now every night for the last two nights. >> it's not a trump card ticket. all right? i am not a birther. i happen to believe that president obama is my president, too. and he's a credible president. he got elected. but i don't think he's leading the country in the right direction. >> paul begala, was -- paul, was this a mistake for the president to wait 2 1/2 years? >> no. it was a mistake to release it today. he didn't wait. he released what is legally recognized by hawaii and the federal government as his certificate of live birth, as his birth certificate. there was no need to stoke or