because let's face it. there's no guarantee that your marriage is going to work. and what we say is better you talk about the money issues before you get married, or that's all you'll be talking about after you get married. >> okay. well, for those -- go ahead. >> no, i was just going to say, one of the secrets, one of the dolans' secrets of marriage besides "yes, dear," the second secret is keep a continuing dialogue. no surprises. and continue -- continue to talk and develop a real strong money relationship. even if you don't have a lot of money. >> so everyone wants to be like ken and daria. celebrate 40 years in the future. >> i barely look 40. i can't believe it! i don't even look 40! >> incredible possession, you guys, you know, you must have manufactured together there. so you know what? >> or something. >> for a lot of couples who did say "i do" and they didn't work out the whole finance thing beforehand, you still have some
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