that forecast beat expectations. it also gave a nice pop to dell's stock in the aftersales, dell finishing up by more than 6%. compare that with hp, nina. down by more than 7%. so it goes back to what we were talking about earlier. it's looking difficult as to what's happening in the global economy. most seem to be hitting toward a more -- a less optimistic outlook. let's put it that way. >> it is. of course, you're got sony in the mix. so it seems as though a lot of investors focusing on stock trades rather than the trends. let's look ahead at the trend we could see when the markets do open in a few hours from now. this is frankly a pretty strong start. some of these markets up by about a third of 1% to a half of 1% in premarket action, the nasdaq, again, the leader among the pack. well, calling china pakistan's best and most trusted