what i'm hearing from big donors, there's a real hesitation. >> but to go back to what carville has been saying, there is more about weakness, division, fractured party, unable to find a candidate. not a high turn out. that's the kind of thing that can hurt someone like mitt romney in a head-on against barack obama. national polls will show, i think weakening of his position. that will play back into this. >> it just looks like a party that is holding its nose. and saying, all right. >> we haven't got a better option. >> we will just may have to -- >> barack obama tonight will feel good. >> he is a guy who should be in trouble. if you look at numbers and look at his performance and you know, look at 45% approval rating, has been for months -- >> let's bring under some republicans here. ari, are you depressed tonight? >> no, i think is nonsense. i think people are way overplaying the impact of one meaningless caucus night.