don't think she was as quite as commanding. but i think he came up short on what he needed to do. he needed to win the debate. there's the cnn poll and another poll out there that both say she won the debate. i think what's distressing, anderson, to realize, there are 50 million people out there that are really angry. and his base is something we haven't seen before in my memory. and i don't know where that base goes. i think doug's asking the right question. what happens if he loses to all those 50 million people. where do they go in our politics and what matter does that make? >> next debate, nine days away. just ahead, we'll dig deeper on donald trump's claims that hillary clinton laughed at a 12-year-old victim in a rape case 40 years ago. you'll hear the tape for yourself. sweet sun ripened strawberries. no artificial flavors. philadelphia® strawberry. rich..., creamy...