in the second debate, trump did seem to have studied up a little more on the e-mail stuff, on the classified markings and all that but short-handing it saying with the c on it, wasn't explaining it to the people who aren't following all the time. if he can make that step it could be go for him. he needs to make the argument over and over these e-mails, i think they do, show she is business as usual in washington and business is bad. an effective argument but needs to dress it up with the facts. >> most effective. >> my read of the e-mails as well is that the sort of worst part of them watching a campaign struggle to sell what they view, acknowledge, as sort of in the e-mails a flawed product here. i think what it does is basically in the e-mails you see the campaign struggling with a lot of the very same issues that bother the american people about hillary clinton. smoking gun, new information? not necessarily, but it is kind of a reminder of what it is that, has made a large section of the public uneasy with.