model man. so i don't hold what somebody did years ago against him, you know, because we've all -- i've matured as i've got older, but there's things that i've said and done that would be terrible if my -- my children or grandchildren heard that. you know, i mean, it's -- it's not the way you want to treat women, but i do know how many talk in a locker room. >> so, david, thoughts? >> so, carol, i agree with lynn that melania trump could have spent more time in that interview talking about the private donald trump, the mantha she knows that would have helped more perhaps for his campaign. that being said, i thought she came across as comfortable, credible. she came across as someone who sincerely supports her husband even now. that being said, you know, the one thing that didn't come across as credible was this idea that billy bush egged donald trump on. donald trump did not have to be