>> those republicans who support mr. trump. my next guest took his never trump sentiment all the way to an independent run for president. former cheech poief policy direr the house republican congress. welcome, sir. so you heard what those voters said about paul ryan, he's a traitor, they don't like him anymore, he's not patriotic. they might be saying the same things about you. >> well, they can go ahead and do that. only about 9% of the american electoral voted for hillary clinton and donald trump. these are the two most unpopular candidates in modern times from the two major parties. we've got to have better in this country. millions of americans are already supporting my campaign with mindy finn and we're only two months into this thing. obviously for us, it's a shorter run. it's a lot shorter, right?