and women. they understand the conversation is now about hillary clinton. she spent the whole campaign trying to make it about donald trump. what they won't get in the free media, they're trying to do with their paid media. >> paul, for your superpac, is that what you're trying to do now, redirect it to character issue on donald trump? >> well, to frame up the choice. this is what we did from the beginning. our first ad was about donald trump's comments about women and so this is, perhaps, our last one. i have to say people -- we got carol king to give us the rights to her song, "natural woman." you make me feel like a natural woman. the first half is very positive. images of hillary and it's very positive, then it pivots so you see the choice. it's not fully negative which i'm a little disappointed in. i like to go 110 -- the other folks at the pac have more stroke than i do so they insisted half be positive. we want people to know the choice. i said this to you on friday, i say it again, voters, hillary may have mishandled e-mails, donald trump may have mishandled women. which is worse? >> paul, you have a huge problem on your hand when 45% according to politico believe what hillary clinton did was worse than watergate. that's a very big deal. >> called the trump vote. >> according to cnn's reporting,