people must come out and vote regardless of early voting or not. i mean some states don't have -- pennsylvania, we don't have early voting. we do have absentee ballot. >> that may indeed be the case but that wasn't my question. if they're doing those things isn't that exactly what donald trump claimed, the rigging of the system that's going on? that is part of the rigging, as well. >> it's part of the process, yeah. it's part of the rigging system. >> okay. >> you know, but again we have to prove those things in court. i did hear the earlier panel and it -- i'm saddened by, you know, certain events that happen to the -- to the 100-year-old lady and those things should not exist, but again mistakes are made every day in this process. >> yeah. so, you know, you're down in the carolinas, bakari sellers so talk to me. you're in south carolina. but this one is in north carolina. but go ahead.