part of the establishment that donald trump has run against and done so -- >> and his running mate, paul ryan, this is the conversation that's going to go on -- >> and to that point -- >> ryan is a young man and he's -- >> congressman, i covered you and your former colleagues for a long time in politics. and romney aside, to john's point, there is a very, very deep split, that is getting deeper and deeper with each election within the republican party. and if there is a president trump, it's going to be fascinating to see how he works with lindsey graham and ben sasse and even mitch mcconnell, people who are not even close to being donald trump -- >> i think that party split is going to turn out to be a good thing. it's going to take a while for us to figure out, what do you do with the tea party folks who put vote parody often over philosophy or getting something done. because sometimes you just have