eye on the threats here. as of now the nypd and secret service are continuing to negotiate on the presence. if the secret service had their way, all of fifth avenue at all times would be closed. it's been closed back and forth over the course of the last couple of hours. they want it changed. they want a number of different shifts. an important point was made by one law enforcement official is this, the nypd knows how to handle these things. they deal with national security issues on a regular basis. there's a push and pull going back and forth, but i will say the secret service wants more done than they've done already. evolving is the way someone put the security posture here. expect more restrictions in the days ahead. anderson. >> phil mattingly. thanks a lot. joining me now jonathan wacro, a former secret service agent who protected president obama and others. candidate trump had secret service protection, but as soon as he becomes president-elect it goes to a new level. >> absolutely. the security posture changes dramatically. he goes from a candidate