>> what do you make of the fact that he so far refuses to release them? >> he doesn't want to. >> why? >> because he thought it would hurt him in the election. >> does it bother you? >> it's something, you know, i think they should do just like medical record candidates, but you've got to expect that i mean hillary didn't want to release the transcripts of the talks -- >> should she have the wall street speeches. >> well, obviously -- i didn't run a political campaign. but obviously in the political campaign, you decide what hurts you and what helps you. and believe me, that's the calculation. you know, and you've got to expect candidates to behave in that way. you don't advance to the point where you're running for president of the united states without learning something about political campaign, and having people around you that give you all kinds of advice and that was the obviously either their own determinations with both candidates or the urgings of those around them. >> have you spoken with hillary clinton since she conceded? >> no, no.