you're saying about the violence, but i've covered tea party pro tests on capitol hill, where people spit on members of congress, where african-american members of congress were called slang terms, racist slang terms. so i want to know what you think, paul when you -- >> there's no place for this brianna, period. no place for racism in american life, period. >> there certainly is no place for it and i wonder, paul what you think about what donald trump needs to do in talking about this? >> well, actually, before i get to that, good manners compels me to point out if it were reversed, see jeffrey sitting there, solid, sedate, sober. if i was jeffrey lorde, i'm in houston, elmo wright played for university of houston. he invented the end zone dance. if i was lorde i'd still be doing the end zone dance. first congratulations to jeffrey for conducting himself so well.