it as he was in the tent eating a pork chop and he would look at me and say, jeremy, have you ever seen a crowd like this and it was my first campaign thinking i have no idea. i don't have any benchmarks to compare it. that was one of the struggles for me. is this normal? how does it fit in to a normal campaign, but you quickly started to realize, especially those of us on the ground in august in to september, october, as there was talk of is the summer of trump coming to an end. we saw this was a real phenomenon. >> you could honestly say no i have never seen that. >> i said it certainly seems like a lot of people, mr. trump. >> there was a moment when you were covering the cruz campaign that you noticed people were taking trump seriously. >> i said when did you finally take donald trump seriously and they were all more oes less said the same thing when donald trump