last year and you take away the ambush attacks, we're behind the curve and not ahead of it. we're in a tough time. >> what is going on, joe? what is happening out there? how do you explain the root of why there are more ambush attacks right now on police officers? >> well, unfortunately, many people are going to point to the protest over police over the last few years that led up to this, but probably no direct evidence for that. the issue that comes down to is that we know there is a strong dislike for law enforcement in this country right now under what's happening. and i think that we, you know, we need to address that. police departments have to get out in front of this, too. >> how? >> they need to communicate better. we have social media and reaching out to the community and they have ways of being able to do things that they never had 20 years ago and they need to engage more. >> i think to a certain extent, that would help. no cure for crazy. some of the people committing these heinous cracks are -- >> doesn't it help to get the message out that police officers are your friends and they're doing god's work and help the