the oval office. we started this whole campaign, partly on this fake news premise that the president of the united states, now, president obama, was not a real american. he eventually had to produce his birth certificate. now we're transitioning to say, i'm also -- this is president-elect trump speaking, i'm also going to question facts when i get to the oval office. so if you're at the cia, you're saying, i don't understand what's fact and what's fiction, when i'm serving somebody who decides that he can create facts as he chooses to. i think this is really toxic. >> okay, so, phil, let me just make a point to our viewers ear and just remind everybody that the people that donald trump -- the leaders in the cia that donald trump was referring to in his statement are not the same leaders that are there now. those people have all gone. there's new leadership in the cia, including, obviously, the incoming cia, mike pompeo. and i'm thinking, phil, that puts him in a real predicament, because you have to wonder, is he going to take the trump angle