workers, 1999, was any good, they would have kept those jobs in indiana, spending more time working, less time talking, reduce dues. if you could sit down with the president-elect, what would you say to him? >> i would ask him what he meant by that quote. reduce dues and work more, talk less? i don't think he understands what we do there. we were representing those people. regardless, when it first broke -- when the carrier story first broke, the numbers were 1,400 people going to mexico. those are our members. absolutely, we're going to fight for them. he come in, and worked some kind of deal out, and said that we're saving 100. that's great, ecstatic. we've still got 500 going. so those are the people we're continuing to fight for. as well as rexnord. and we're fighting for htc up in -- the ones up in huntington. >> let's listen to -- talking about that number of jobs, let's listen to what one of the employees of carrier whose job