have the other side who is kind of like apprehensive about how this will affect relations with china. >> yeah. look, we should be concerned about being overly confrontational with china. this is the most important bilateral relationship in the world and will be for decades. but on this one specific issue, the south china sea, there are enormous stakes. for the u.s. this is not about the u.s. and china. this is about the entire international order. what china wants to do is return to a way of making international rules that existed pre-world war ii. it's undermining 75 years of the way the global system runs. >> so henry kissinger might be right because he said over the weekend that trump is a phenomenon that foreign countries haven't seen and that his style could be an extraordinary opportunity. so what do you suppose he means by that? >> well, opportunity in that this is certainly something different. i think it is frankly far too