of -- the sort of privacy issues play into so much of the policy debate here. >> they do. and i mean it is not perhaps the right verb. i think germany has come a long way and certainly the country does not forget its past, the history is all over. even where this horrible incident happened in front of the memorial church which stands as a symbol for the atrocities of war, right. >> i guess it haunts defense policy in many ways, doesn't it, this apprehension? >> this is true, but even then germany has come a long way and realizes it is a power that is a responsible power in europe and beyond, and, for example, the green party voted to give arms to the peshmerga most recently, which is kind of a first. >> thank you so much indeed. there are so many bigger issues coming out of this attack, focused very much right now on finding the culprit.