dhs, an internal memo that came out, that points to problems and concerns with the lack of vetting, indeed -- >> but there are two things -- >> -- we don't know all the detail. >> i just want to be clear about one thing. vetting can be imperfect. but to say it is not happening is a completely different things. any refugee entering the united states has been vetted. things can be missed. but that doesn't mean they are not being vetted. >> we know. that even -- go back to the interrogator for ksm. and he even talks about how ksm is talking about wanting to use the refugee program. you can look at secretary johnson's statements about we don't know a lot about the syrian refugees coming into the country, those coming from war-torn areas. and that was a statement he made