clap it up for yourself. clap it up. >> we meet at neighborhood stalwart tony and ruth steaks. still doing what they do. >> it doesn't get any better than this. >> what was camden like back in the good ole days? >> oh, my god. it was so different coming up when i was younger. i didn't have to worry about my life being threatened coming outside. everybody knew everybody. that sense of community was strong back then. >> you were talking about your childhood as if it was a real long time ago. it's not that long ago. what the hell went wrong? >> people can blame it on the politics, but i think that's too easy. many have failed our children. but it's up to the parents to start getting more involved in a kid's education. know what your child is doing. >> you're putting it principally on the parents. >> absolutely. >> this is tasty. >> this is delicious. >> so the conventional wisdom seems to be get out of camden. why are you still here? >> because the need is still in camden.