>> anthony: did anyone think it was possible that in their lifetime they were going to see the end of this son of a bitch? most people are telling me they never dreamed. >> akram: i don't know if you can call them dreams, hopes, wishes. it was just something in the sky. something i look at every night. >> anthony: right. >> akram: but when i hit that point and got into misrata and stood on gaddafi's body, any dream will come true. >> anthony: what's the situation now? >> akram: uh, it's fluid. it can swing any direction. >> anthony: well, look, what happened in benghazi a few months ago, i mean, what does this mean to the country? >> akram: i think there is a dark, mysterious hand who doesn't like this country to prosper. they see system and organization as a big enemy to them. these dark hands are slowly getting diminished. >> anthony: how -- >> akram: it's a matter of time before we can get rid of them. >> anthony: how hard do you think that's going to be? >> akram: not hard at all. we got rid of gaddafi.
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