deportation. we have a category called voluntary return. if they're picked up at the border and agree to go back to mexico, we haul them back there, open the side door on the van and walk back to mexico. >> that's an interesting metaphor -- >> that was mott the deportation under bush -- obama called it a deportation. >> the homeland security dhs releases at the end of 2016. here is how they categorize it. you can, like the president, say this is all politicized and everybody is lying. an increasing percentage of those deported from the interior were convicted of serious crimes. over 90% in 2016. guess what the number was in 2009, the period you just reminded us of? >> i don't know. >> 51%. it went from 51 to 90, congressman. i get you want to build a wall and see it as a good thing. but the problem doesn't stand up to what has been introduced as the reality. >> let me suggest another component of this that's not been brought up, and that is that the border patrol and