preemptive steps right now to prevent that kind of situation from developing here in the united states. >> look, it's totally a different situation. what you see in europe are people showing up literally in the countries in question without any kind of screening, without any kind of vetting and looking for asylum. in the united states anyone who gets here is a refugee has to go through an extraordinarily laborious process, first through the united nations and then our own system. on average it takes two years. the obama administration had some concerns about these seven countries, but what we did was not a ban with congress. we worked very carefully, and we -- >> let's talk about that because there has been a lot of the other trump people that have been making the point that president trump is following an example of what president obama did in 2011 when there was a temporary, you know, ban, iraqi refugees coming to the united states. listen to kellyanne conway, the counsellor to the president.