it's about keeping bad people with bad intentions out of the country. smart messaging from the president there. make it about safety. there's a process in the state department. this may sound more dramatic. they have this dissent process. if you are in the foreign station, you're stationed for the state department somewhere around the world, you can join this dissent process. more than 1,000 people have signed this dissent cable protesting this policy, and they say the end result of this ban will not be a drop in terror attacks in the united states, but, rather, it would be a drop in the goodwill towards america. it happens in other administrations. this is early in this administration. you've had the white house press secretary on notice saying either get with the program or resign. the acting attorney general, an obama holdover, wouldn't enforce this policy. the president said you're fired. how will this be processed in this administration? will they say, great, we're having a conversation about this, or will they say go away? >> not well. i mean, like you said, sean spicer, the white house spokesperson, was as blunt as you can be. get with the program or get out.