the tech giants are banding together to oppose president trump's travel ban. joining me now is kara swisher. founder of recode. you have reporting about the major tech companies responding to the executive order on immigration. fill us in. >> i've been hearing about this for a while. obviously waiting for this to be done jointly. often do that like on net neutrality and other issues important to them. done it before when the government was tapping into their systems and things like that. so expecting them to do this. what is different is trying to involve not just tech companies but other companies. cpg, consumer product goods and manufacturing companies. don't just want it to be tech versus trump which it's become a little bit but get companies supporting immigration to the