refugees. that part is still untrue. what do you make of this situation, stelter? >> i look at this. she said on hardball with chris matthews, she said the master minds of the bowling green massacre. if she says she means terrorists, the entire sentence was misconstrued. i think it's an open question whether she thought there had been an attack in bowling green, kentucky. >> and the media would suppress it. this is the insanity of it. of course she misspoke. she meant the terrorists. she suggested that the news wouldn't cover a terrorist attack, a massacre because of politics? stop the madness. >> because she says we're fake news. i completely agree. this is the problem with annette does versus data. she sees on one anecdote as opposed to the data which says refugees are less likely to commit crimes -- she's seizing on an anecdote trying to sew