overhype the situation. the kremlin spokesman telling cnn yesterday that he never indulged in any great optimism that the russian/u.s. relationship would change under president trump. so they're really kind of watching to see what happens next, linda. >> and in terms of what happens next, we know that president trump is expected to speak to the president of ukraine. in the coming lawyers, what can we expect from that? >> reporter: well, this may well be a measure of just how much has changed in the past week. until this week we would have thought this relationship might not be adopted to succeed. there were many comments that mr. trump made on the campaign trail. for example, that he might consider recogzing the indepeence of crimea that had ukraine extremely worried. there was anent back in september when ple pro shen cowas in new york and had offered to meet with mr. trump. they didn't manage to meet for scheduling reasons. this will be the first time they're speaking.