to work. they'd be able to pay taxes. dreamers would have nothing to worry about, the children of undocumented immigrants who have grown up here in the united states. it sounds like something that he potentially could work out a deal with a lot of democrats and many moderate republicans. >> potentially, of course, thinking about a piece of legislation is much different than actually heralding or pushing this legislation through congress, or even developing a piece of legislation in the first place, and especially on an issue like immigration which we've seen can be so politically risky, especially on the republican side. but donald trump, he had a meeting with senators a few weeks ago including senator joe manchin of west virginia who told reporters about this meeting afterwards. and he did express openness to doing something on immigration reform. i think some of the questions we'll need to ask moving forward are, first of all, how would this look any different from the gang of 8 bill that senators produced a few years ago which was a compromise on immigration reform, and also included provisions for legal status.