indefensible, and frankly, four federal judges agreed with that. >> the fact that this was delayed even after the president made his remarks to both houses of congress, it was supposed to be rolled out the next day. the reporting is that it got pushed back in order to allow the white house to kind of bask in the glow of the positive reception his talks gave. does that point to some inaccuracies when the trump administration early on in your opinion was saying this has to be done immediately because otherwise bad people are going to rush in under the current system? >> yeah, you know, anderson, i hope that those reports that the president delayed this because he wanted to bask in the glow of his address to congress is not true because, you're right, the president had said this was all about national security, it can't wait another day. i hope those reports are not true. he also mentioned when he signed the original executive order, as you know it went into effect immediately which caused chaos at airports all around the country. this new executive order doesn't go into effect until next