>> [ inaudible ] 10 million people lose their coverage. is that acceptable to you? >> what matters is we're lowering the costs of health care and giving people access to government health care plans. the government will always win the war if we mandate, everybody buys what we say they have to buy, the government will estimate they will buy it. that is bogus. that entire premise doesn't work. the fact is we're not going to have the government tell you what you must do. tell you what you must buy. we're going to allow the market to do that. we're going to let people decide what they want to do with their lives and we want to lower costs by having more competition and equalizing health care, tax savings accounts, that gives people the freedom to buy what they want and can afford. >> [ inaudible ]. >> we will have 218 votes. this is the beginning of the legislative process. we'll have 218 when this thing comes to the floor. i can guarantee you that. >> what do you say to folks who say this bill [ inaudible ]? >> read the bill.