in fact donald trump may be under some sort of investigation and whether in fact, barack obama actually wiretapped him. >> kirsten, what are the stakes for the democrats and republicans? there are a lot of people with very high expectations on what some of these committees may discover and it's very possibly there may not be any there. there are smoke trails but no fire. >> i think the stakes are really high. there are certainly a lot of accusations that are made and a lot of different things that happened that have raised questions. but we don't know, if there is smoke, is there necessarily fire. even in the latest example with the server. this is way, way, way above my pay grade, first of all the server stuff. but if you think about it, really the trump administration even if they did communicate with the bank in russia, in effect, is not nefarious, the