trying to get off it. just like ron nessen in the nixon white house, standing up there trying to justify something that's been said that's not true. so there's this stream of distortion. until the guy at top says now it's time to tell the truth, they're trapped in this lie. it's a terrible circumstance for every one of trump's supporters. >> corinne? you've been listening. what do you think? >> i think the problem is the president didn't understand what it means to be president. when you use twitter to say your predecessor essentially committed a felony, that is serious. that is potential for constitutional crisis. that's what he doesn't understand. and so -- but here's its thing. the president started his political foray by lying about president obama, saying he wasn't born here.