home and make the case and when they were first attacked at their town hall meetings, that was the first sign. that was the sign that they were in trouble. >> do you think those town hall meetings had a big impact? >> i do. they went back to the negotiating table, a lot of them got nervous and maybe the president got nervous. i don't know. but he never said this is better than obamacare. this provision will do more for you than obamacare did. so he never got out there and sold it. >> i'm going to come back. if you take sean spicer at his word, that's a pretty damning indictment of the president's sway then. if he didn't everything he could and couldn't move members of his own party, that's a pretty damning indictment of how much sway he has. i do think the president put a lot into this in the last couple weeks but if you studied history like immigration for republicans this the quicksand of american politics, health care. those democrats who voted for