you don't need to advance too far past sort of fourth grade civics to know that if you've got something of concern and you're in the congress -- and i have no idea what it is, because devin hasn't shared it with anybody, but if there's some issue of unmasking of confidential information, congress is to serve as a check and a balance on the president, on the white house. and yet, devin, chairman nunes has -- whatever it is he's done, it has been at the white house, it appears to have been in the service of the white house, and so, it is very clear that he owes us an explanation. >> in your view, congressman, why do you think it appears to be in the service of the white house? i ask because this new information out any morning i'm really curious on, the fact that the chairman met with the source of this information at the old executive office building on white house grounds. is that typical for a member of congress to do? >> no. no. as a member of congress of eight-year standing, i've