evelyn fa evelyn farkiss who worked for hillary clinton campaign. i would love to see her testify. >> she left the communication in september of 2015. before trump was a candidate. >> how did she know if she left in 2015. >> she left in september 2015. she was a high level russia expert. >> but she knew that trump was being spied on. how is that possible? >> jack, jack, i'm not sure if you read her introduce. but what she has talked:00 as a russia expert is her belief that there was something up here, and that trump should be questioned, should have to go through almost like a security clearance-like process. >> let me say this. there is no way in the world she is not going to be subpoenaed for the interview. >> fine. >> she said unequivocally, we did not want the trump people to know what we knew about. >> she was -- >> jack. [ overlapping dialog ] >> the difference between her and flynn, she is actually giving interviews right now. she wrote something for the american spectator at the request of jeffrey lord. she is out there talking.