barrel bombs by the assad regime as something that could prompt the trump administration to have another military strike. if that is -- it was walked back later. that would be a major shift. >> i hope that's not where they're going. you start getting into the nomenclature of conventional weapons or modified -- >> 13,000 barrel bombs were used in 2016. >> don't get me wrong, we should not be supportive of any of that. they were using those barrel bombs on civilian targets. they didn't care about casualties. that's not a good path to walk down. i think they did a good thing. they went in. they were decisive about the use of chemical weapons in a way that brought support of the world and republicans and democrats came together and said, good on you. this gives them a window, i think, to get that strategy together. i don't think they're there yet. i don't think they thought this through. but i will say -- old saying in the army. when the map doesn't match the terrain, it's best to go with