bau obamacare? >> i don't think so. we're at a 17 year low in illegal boarder crossings. enforceal the law works and the greater umbrella the president is delivering on that. and i want to say this. the policy -- >> what about the wall? is it crucial that he has to do that? >> i think it's crucial that he absolutely has to fight for it, but i think the american electorate understands that he's fighting chuck schumer, a man who voted for the wall in 2006 along with his senate colleague barack obama. but remember one thing that paul and i know and we've discussed off camera a minute ago, is that the issue is great for us. and i'm just talking straight politics. this is not good policy. but sometimes a political party does well when they talk about an issue and that issue doesn't