be too cynical about this because i cannot imagine that lieberman, if he were in that job, would not take it seriously and go for the letter of the law and spirit of the law and particularly with robert mueller as the head of the investigation, as the special counsel. and what has really happened here is that rod rosenstein has thrown a monkey wrench into this coverup and into the ability of the trump white house to stonewall and put impediments into the investigation. >> let me get to that monkey wrench in a second. but carl, i want your two cents because lieberman was a democrat. that's great for bipartisan support. but listen, the president needs to shore up support in his own party. it doesn't hurt that he's close friend with the likes of senators mccain and graham? >> i learned a long time ago never to second guess carl bernstein's political instincts. >> smart man.