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believes it helps stir up the base? >> however, what's interesting is a different donald trump. when he ran, he was this tough guy, this guy who's going to get things done, this great negotiator. he was trump zilla. he was going to make washington bow down. he was going to drain the swamp. now he's president snowflake, okay? everything he said, oh, they're mean to me and they don't like me and i just don't understand it and it's not fair. so you have a big brand shift going on. now, it still works with his base because his base says, listen, you know, this is our guy and now our guy's under fire. for most people he looks increasingly bizarre. people who didn't buy the product at least thought they knew what it was. it turns out you got -- you don't have trumpzilla, you have president snowflake. >> gloria, it's one thing when you're running if you're going to be the tough guy for the people, and, you know, for their needs to get jobs, to, you know, get security, whatever it may be, then it's another thing if

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