absence? the point being, just because we don't know doesn't mean you should assume the negative. it doesn't exist because i don't know about it yet. isn't an investigation about not speculating? you make thguys make that pointe time. >> if a viewer is a consumer of news, i think you've made the point that i don't know. i think if i listen to different panels on different networks, the drumbeat is there must be something there, there's got to be evidence, there is collusion. why are people talking about impeachment? i've heard the impeachment story for days, chris. it's because there would have been evidence then of collusion between president trump and the russians. and you just pointed out and agree with me that we haven't seen any evidence thus far publicly to that fact. so why is there a drumbeat of impeachment? >> politics. and what i'm saying is it's equally egregious to assume -- i'm saying it's equally