the campaign and those advisers back to the russians. all part of a bigger picture. no conclusive evidence yet of, for instance, collusion, but these are still open questions. >> mark preston, to jared kushner now, also under scrutiny from the fbi over his meetings with a russian banker. here's sean spicer on that today. >> you're asking if he approves of an action that is not a confirmed action. that being said, i think secretary kelly and general mcmaster have both discussed that, in general terms, back channels are an appropriate part of diplomacy. >> interesting that sean isn't denying the meeting or even denying the attempt at a secret channel. >> talk about being put in that position, don. having to stand there and to defend something about the president's son-in-law who is one of his top advisers but yet not necessarily addressing it and trying to, in many ways, artfully pushing it off on the two generals. the national security adviser and the homeland security