>> i just think it's a risky position for macron to take because of that. we know that president didn't like the fact that he was pressured by european leaders last week at the g7 summit not to pull out of paris. you can imagine, you know, he's someone that is very conscious of his image. he doesn't like being publicly humiliated. you can only imagine what he thinks of this new fresh faced french leader who is 30 years younger than him lecture him in english on television. >> perhaps it would -- might make president trump dig his heels in further? >> that's possibly. you have to question whether it might be a price to pay down the road for president macron and the french or whether we will see once this dies down an effort to stress the wider effort that france and the u.s. have together, for example, on terrorism and other issues. >> david, what is this telling us about, you know, france's new leader and whether he is emerging as europe's new leader? >> well, europe's and the