the seven to nine meetings which is an indication he has an interest in this. you look at the information, including talking to people in and around the investigation. what i heard yesterday there was no aha moment. you slap your head and say what was the president thinking. that is inappropriate. >> i want to keep it there for a couple of reasons. mueller is looking at that. nobody in congress will decide what is legal or illegal. you can argue they should not look at the president's behavior. they should focus on the interferen interference. democrats are consumed with impeachment. let's let mueller have purview. i want to have a look at this. if it did become a political process or trial of the president. it is high crimes and misdemeanors which means nothing. it means neither crimes nor misdemeanors. you pick grounds. the republicans are arguing what you two guys are now.