>> anthony: why out of all the bands in the world did morrissey and the smiths resonate in this community? >> oscar: there was a convergence of music and people that did not connect to what was being said. he connected with his lyrics and i think everything was going so pop and so mainstream and he was the alternative to that, and i think there is a lyrical element to his words that resonated with the latino community. >> anthony: and people said that his lyrics, his songs, resonated with traditional mariachi in that sense that -- >> oscar: right. >> anthony: the songs are so much about finding something beautiful or even funny about getting relentlessly [ bleep ] over and having shit go wrong, i mean. >> elisa: i think morrissey