around 40%. barack obama spent almost his entire eight years between 38% and 42%. one election led with high approval numbers. i never heard anyone say on cnn, msnbc that he had poor approval numbers, even though he was at basically where trump is. michael, consider how incredible it is that this president has suffered the incredible attacks from your network and others, and he's still pulling 40%. i think getting to your question on the base he has like -- >> before you get to the question, let me just push back on that. your numbers relative to barack obama, accurate, however, were at the six-month post. and if you look at every modern president at this juncture, he is way the heck below where any of them were. >> you forgot the first part of that logic, the first six months we've never had a president that's never suffered the attacks he's suffered.