he's on the golf course, and talked about his other actions, actions that they see as irrational. jim, what's interesting is that director clapper and others seem incredulous that this president would put himself on the same level as a kim jong-un i guess by it seems like he's punching down. he should be above the sort of rhetoric that he's spewing. >> listen, he's put himself in a retorque -- restore rhetorical tit for tat with north korea, which is a country that does this all the time. but there's no need really for an american president to do that. america has power and order of magnitude or two bigger than north korea presents, so there's no need to deal on a sort of one-on-one level. i think there's a sort of disappointing tendency to dismiss the comments of former officials like director -- former director of national intelligence james clapper because they served the previous administration, forgetting, of course, that he served republicans and democrats